H8teful: Reconstructed Hateful 8 Roadshow Version Ex. Q. T. V. O.


Updated: 27th April 2024

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Faneditor: Wraith  
Fanedit Type: Extended Edition
Fanedit Release Date: 1st October 2022
Fanedit Runtime: 3h:11m:0s
Time Cut: h:0m:0s
Time Added: 0h:24m:0s
Franchise: The Hateful Eight
Genre: Western
Original Title: The Hateful Eight (2015)   
Original Release Date: 1st January 2015
Original Runtime: 2h:47m:0s
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Format: Digital
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Subtitles: No
 

Synopsis:

IN April 2019 Netflix made available an extended version of the director’s “The Hateful Eight”. The movie was presented as a miniseries with four episodes each running approximately 50 minutes. I have used this as the basis for reconstructing The Unavailable Roadshow version of the movie and included my adjustments removing the QT Voiceover flashback and the scoring change I made at the end. The same tweaks I made to the Ex Q.T.V.O Theatrical version Edit are identical here. I have also reinstated the original Chapters from the Theatrical and Roadshow versions rather than adhering to the 4 chapter mini series structure. Tarantino’s theatrical cut ran 168 minutes, The Roadshow Version ran 187 Minutes while the four episodes of the extended cut make up 210 minutes (but that includes 4 sets of opening and end credits). If you remove those, you have the Roadshow effectively. This version runs 191 minutes and for now is the longest version you can watch (that's the overture adding 4 mins). I will not make available The unaltered roadshow version since I believe the flashback to be a serious flaw in tone and pacing. Hope y’all enjoy this…and for the geeks, I have added those tiny markers in the lower right to indicate extra material compared to the Theatrical version.


Intentions:

To reconstrcut the Roadshow Version.


Change List:

FULL AUDIO REBUILDS: The Flashback removal scene The post intermission scene exterior ADDITIONAL MATERIAL: IN ful with additional dialogue and time differences Marquis and John turning away to the side lasts a little bit longer in the Theatrical Version. Meanwhile in the Extended Version Marquis pleads for help with the corpses on the way to Red Rock. A deal with O.B. is made and John helps Marquis to keep the horses still while loading the bodies. Marquis: "Say, partner, you give me a hand tying these three fellows up on the roof, I'll make it worth your while we get to Red Rock." O.B.: "Now, I hear you making $8,000 off these dead fuckers?" Marquis: "Yeah." O.B.: "Well, I'll help you for $250." Marquis: "How about $150, and I pay for all your booze the first two days we're in Red Rock?" O.B.: "Hmm." Marquis: "They got a little social club in Red Rock?" O.B.: "Why, yes, they do." Marquis: "Let's take you to a night there, too. Now, that's a good deal, sir." O.B.: "Shit fire, that's a damn good deal. But I can't leave these horses unattended, so you gonna have to get them folks to hold the horses." Marquis: "Shit. I'll see what I can do." He is going towards John, who is urinating: "Mr. Ru... Excuse me, you think you could, uh, hold on to these horses while we load these fellas on the roof?" John: "Yeah, course. Come on, tramp." He holds the reins, while Marquis is walking to the dead bodies. Marquis says the full sentence "I'm gonna miss him" onscreen in the extended version, while in the theatrical version this is heard offscreen, when he lightens a match on his boots. Additionally there's a little more dialogue only in the extended version. John: "Had a horse like that once. About 20 years ago. Called him Cauliflower. I used to call him my beast friend." Marquis: "And what happened to him?" John: "Some rattlesnake shot him out from under me." Marquis: "You make it right?" John: "Oh, you know I did." Marquis grins. Before the versions synchronize again with the view of Daisy, you can hear O.B. saying "Leche!" a first time offscreen. In the theatrical version John is shown at this moment, in the extended version it's Marquis. Extended Version 23 sec longer Alternative When you hear "There's another fella" both versions show different settings. The Extended Version shows the long shot a little bit sooner. Theatrical Version 0,5 sec longer Alternative This long shot is shown longer in the Theatrical Version and John leaves Daisy. The Extended Version changes to a frontal shot and John ask Daisy some critical questions. John: "Is that it, Daisy? That the surprise you got planned for me? 'Cause I know you got a surprise planned for me." Daisy: "Maybe the surprise is I'm tired of running." John: "You facing a rope, tramp. Ain't nobody get tired of running from that." Daisy: "You might be surprised, John." John: "If you're counting on surprising me, Daisy, don't count on it." He then walks on, while the long shot starts sooner. Extended Version 25,4 sec longer Alternative In the Extended Version John points to the back in this scene and then the recording from the Theatrical Version is shown. The following dialogue is much longer and in alternative takes from the Theatrical Version. The identical parts are marked with italics fonts. Theatrical Version John: "This changes things, son. $8,000 a whole lot of money for a nigger. But with a partner, 18's a whole lot better." Marquis: "You really think I'm in cahoots with that fella, or her?!" Extended Version John: "You know that fella?" Marquis: "I know me some people around here. Spend a lot of time on this mountain hiding out from bushwhackers. Could be I know that fella. Maybe I don't. I wasn't expecting nobody." John: "You weren't, eh?" Marquis: "No, I weren't." John: "This changes things, son. $8,000 a whole lot of money for a nigger. But with a partner, 18's a whole lot better." Marquis: "I ain't got a partner no more." John: "So you say." Marquis: "You take a gander at them three frozen fuckers up there and see if you see any bullet holes in their back. Well, maybe Reverend Roy McCracken. Him I did shoot in the back. But, shit fire, he deserved it. He not only killed my partner, he tried to steal my damn horse." Extended Version 31,8 sec longer In the Extended Version Marquis now also says "You really think I'm in cahoots with that fella, or her?!". Before the Theatrical Version starts a few moments later with the rest of the shot, John also reacts with: "That's my problem, boy. I don't know. And until I do, you in chains." 10,6 sec Alternative In the Theatrical Version Chapter 2 is initiated while in the Mini-Series Version this is integrated in Episode 1 without reference. The Extended Version shows Chris again as a transition, he's shouting "Hey!". Then you can see Marquis a little bit sooner from behind. The dialogue starts onscreen, not in the chapter overlay as in the Theatrical Version.


Additional Notes:

When I first saw this, I immediately balked at the flashback voice over. There was also one scoring piece I disliked, so I replaced it. Apart from a few other tweaks, I now think this is perfect. Also the scene after the intermission (which is not present) required a full audio rebuild as they drag the corpse out into the snow. The removal of the Q.T.V.O. also required a similar full audio rebuild, as di the one major scor replacement...(watch to see where). All this with all the extra Roadsho scenes.


Other Sources:

Hateful 8 CD Score www.movie-censorship.com


Special Thanks:

ArtisDead for being a "Mean MoFo" and delivering KILLER artwork.


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